Thursday, February 28, 2019

cardboard only pilot cart program

From a post on FB.. 

If you want to try using a new cart for only cardboard, send an e mail to: kmw@framinghamma.gov with your name and address and phone number. 

It appears that we can't educate the residents enough to collect clean recycling. We now will have a separate cart, picked up the same day as your regular scheduled trash day. This proves the point about the value of recycling cardboard. What I don't get yet is, will it be a different truck that will pick up cardboard? I haven't seen it advertised anywhere else which seems odd. I'll ask Mike Cannon to find out.

18 Comments:

At February 28, 2019 at 12:26 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I did not see anything about this. When did this happen and how are they paying for these new barrels for cardboard?

 
At February 28, 2019 at 12:34 PM , Blogger jim Pillsbury said...

good questions.. I e mailed Steven Sarnosky from DPW. He must know something. I seem to remember approving a fair chunk of money at Town Meeting years ago when the cart funding was asked for. With the carts.. came the special trucks and allegedly reduced labor costs and back injuries.
I saw it on FB last night late. Can't find it now... but my FB skills are old school.

 
At February 28, 2019 at 2:27 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who has the authority to make this type of decision? I would have assumed DPW but since we were recently informed they were $160,000 in the hole I am curious at where the money is coming from for these new barrels

 
At February 28, 2019 at 2:41 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

i have to say i think this is a great idea but i would be interested in finding out how the city is paying for this and how much it is costing all of us who have to foot that bill

 
At February 28, 2019 at 2:58 PM , Blogger jim Pillsbury said...

I'm agreeing.. where is this extra money coming from? Do we need another truck or two? Maybe it's an outside firm just collecting cardboard, which would make sense, but we still need the cardboard only carts. Seems to me you couldn't use the recycle trucks we have now, unless they are cleaned out thoroughly before picking up the cardboard.
I should hear something from Steven Sarnosky soon.

 
At February 28, 2019 at 3:29 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will we make money on this cardboard Jim? Perhaps this will pay for itself?

 
At February 28, 2019 at 4:24 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I support the city doing this. We should remember that we are doing this to save the world, so the cost is secondary, don't you agree?

 
At February 28, 2019 at 4:52 PM , Blogger jim Pillsbury said...

yeah I'm in for saving the world from us, but we can't even recycle our plastics anymore through the Town recycling.

the big BUT.. at what cost? Are we saving anything with another separate recycling truck for just cardboard... and the fuel it takes to run that truck 5 days a week, plus labor and the price of the carts.
What clean cardboard is worth, I don't know. But to reap any financial benefit, it better be worth a lot per ton. And one big question still remains, how do we keep out things that can contaminate the cardboard?

 
At February 28, 2019 at 5:00 PM , Blogger jim Pillsbury said...

The Town is still lagging in their outreach attempts at defining what goes into the recycle bin. They say in the clip, no greasy pizza boxes. But just one contaminated box can ruin a whole ton of banded cardboard ready for shipment. And they don't mention milk cartons. http://207.172.210.8:5002/CablecastPublicSite/show/1669?channel=1

 
At March 1, 2019 at 10:26 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

First, we are now a city, not a town, just saying. Second you raise a very valid and important point. What good is a separate recycle bin for cardboard if people put contaminated stuff in that bin? It contaminates the entire load in the truck and that means what the truck did for the whole day is worthless. I find it hard to understand how this would be a fiscally responsible change in our current recycle process which is already in trouble. So they are adding another costly process? How about spending the money better informing residents of what is and is not recyclable?

 
At March 1, 2019 at 10:32 AM , Blogger jim Pillsbury said...

correction noted... old dogs don't learn new tricks well.
I have not heard back from DPW... but your right... we need to better educate our residents. Sooner or later, more will come out on this pilot program and then the residents may take notice.

 
At March 1, 2019 at 12:25 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will be interested to hear what the guy from the DPW says. But I do think this is a good program if it comes with a mission of also educating residents about what we can recycle and what we can't and what happens when we do it wrong. After all we are the ones that have to actually pay for those errors.

 
At March 1, 2019 at 3:53 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

How do I get one of these new barrels to hold cardboard? Or do you have to be "special" like Jim to get one?

 
At March 1, 2019 at 4:12 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I sent an email to get one but have not heard back yet. Maybe I am not special enough.

 
At March 1, 2019 at 4:36 PM , Blogger jim Pillsbury said...

hey now... I was just repeating what I saw on FB.. I think. I haven't heard back yet from Steven Sarnosky yet.... I may have hit a nerve at DPW. It took a few days for her to respond. You don't want to put to much pressure on a City employee, they are only one person.
On the dpw site... which is hard to find .. there is the announcement. But notice... no where else has anyone heard of this. Perhaps be design. Roll out a few hundred carts to those who are recycle junkies... see how it goes... assign a task force... study it for a few more months.. then, spring it on the entire City... then ask for more money for the carts.

 
At March 5, 2019 at 12:17 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I saw some posting on facebook about signing up for composting in Framingham. Do you know if this is a city sponsored service and if so, why does it say I have to pay someone else, not the city? And if not a city service, why not composting instead of doing this cardboard thing?

 
At March 5, 2019 at 12:49 PM , Blogger jim Pillsbury said...

The Framingham Compost Crew is a volunteer community group who aims to help
folk in our community begin composting. We understand that backyard composting
is not for everyone so we have researched several private CURBSIDE COMPOST
companies and are working with Black Earth Compost to offer reasonably priced
curbside compost pickup in Framingham. Please see the details below and send
us an email if you have any questions: FraminghamCompostCrew(at)gmail.com

* Cost: $99.99 for 6 months ($3.85 per week)

* Timing: Starting on Thursday, March 14th, weekly pickup for registered
customers will begin.

* Compostable Items: You can compost a lot more than your backyard pile… Meat,
Dairy, Napkins, Paper Towels, Pizza Boxes, and much more!!

For more info please read this one page document we created summarizing
everything you need to know about this amazing service!
https://docs.google.com​/document​/d​/10​-VjHRsfhbTJ7BDw188KsN​_sTGhEEaJ​_5MZcReq​-A​_E​/edit

You can sign up here: https://blackearthcompost.com​/framingham​-ma​/

Thanks!
Mike Croci & The Framingham Compost Crew
FraminghamCompostCrew(at)gmail.com
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The 13 gallon animal proof bin is 24.00

This is not to be confused with the compost program with the city where you can be a composting container for 25 bucks and do it your self.

Also, look at what can and cannot be put into the composting containers from Black arth. I wonder how much contanination is in that composted material.

 
At April 19, 2019 at 3:08 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money. Framingham is going bankrupt with out of control spending and a mayor with zero experience. 48 year resident. Lets next get 4 more bins so we can have clear, brown, green, blue bottles. Stop the insanity and cut all city budgets 10% per year as most businesses do. No tree grows forever into the sky. Enough is enough.

China Doesn’t Want Your Trash
That means a lot more of what Americans put in their blue recycling bins is going into their local landfills.
By Matthew Cella Staff Writer USNews
March 27, 2018, at 7:00 a.m.

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2018-03-27/china-doesnt-want-your-trash

https://www.pri.org/stories/2018-01-01/mountains-us-recycling-pile-china-restricts-imports

 

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